The Nokia N800 Comparable to the Apple iPhone?

Filed under: gadgets, linux, mobile network operators, nokia - 07 Jul 2007 0:26

You know, I hadn’t really thought of the two devices as comparable until Om Malik mentioned it. The two posts he did (here and here) generated a fairly active thread related to this. Here’s my take.

I have not seen the iPhone up close and personal, though like every gadget geek, I read the reviews. I know the iPhone isn’t perfect. It’s locked to AT&T in an evil way–the phone functionality won’t boot unless it sees a specific kind of AT&T SIM card. It’s tied into iTunes, for better or worse.  It’s got a nice browser, plays music and videos from iTunes, and makes calls, all in a nice “Applefied” package.

The Nokia N800, on the other hand, isn’t a phone. Though with both Skype and Gizmo Project on the device, if you’re in WiFi range, you can make and receive phone calls all the same.  You can pair your N800 with a mobile phone with Bluetooth to take advantage of the data network of a mobile carrier.

Here is a comparison of the two devices. It’s kind of like comparing apples and oranges, but I’ll do my best to make the comparisons similar:

iPhone has over N800:

  • Synchronizing data with iPhone + iTunes is a heck of a lot easier than with the N800, which has no out-of-the-box sync.
  • User Interface. While both the iPhone and the N800 have a touch-screen interface, I think you’re going to have a hard time arguing that the N800’s interface is better than the iPhone.
  • iPhone can make calls over a mobile phone network, N800 can’t. The N800 isn’t a phone, duh.
  • Size. The iPhone is a little smaller than the N800.
  • PIM. The iPhone at least has PIM stuff. The N800 doesn’t (see the sync point above), or has very anemic capabilities in this area.

N800 has over iPhone:

  • Applications. The N800, taking advantage of the fact it is Linux-based, has a lot more third-party applications than the iPhone. You can quite simply do more with the N800 than you can with the iPhone.
  • N800 can make calls with VoIP. Google Talk, Skype, and Gizmo Project are all supported on the N800. The iPhone has no VoIP capability because it’s a cell phone tied to a carrier who thinks VoIP is evil
  • Flash support. The iPhone doesn’t support it, the Nokia N800 has Adobe Flash. With the recent firmware update, it now supports Flash 9. This seems to allow Pandora to work on the N800, too! :)
  • More potential storage. The iPhone is limited to 8gb. With the latest firmware update, the N800 can sport 16gb, or possibly more. The memory is removable in the N800–not so in the iPhone.
  • Touch-screen keyboard. I feel a bit unnerved about trusting the iPhone to “guess” what I’m typing correct. On the N800, the touch-screen keyboard can take the whole screen.
  • Cost. The N800 is clearly a better deal at $400 versus the $500 or $600 an iPhone costs. Not counting the 2 year AT&T contract, which is another $2,000. If you want extra storage on the N800, you will have to buy SD or SDHC cards, which brings the cost up closer to the iPhone’s hardware cost. But the N800 isn’t tied to a mobile phone carrier, so once you’ve bought your hardware, you’re free to use it anywhere.

Areas where the iPhone and N800 are comparable:

  • Bluetooth support. The iPhone only supports headsets for bluetooth. The N800 doesn’t support headsets, but supports keyboards, sending files, and pairing with a mobile device to use it’s Internet connection.
  • Web browser. Neither one support a “standard” web browser (where “standard” means either Internet Explorer or Firefox). The iPhone uses Safari, which is based on WebKit, the same rendering engine used on the KDE web browser and the S60 3rd Edition browser. The N800 uses Opera. Yes, I realize both of these browsers probably follow “standards” more than the other two dominant browsers, but most people code to the dominant browsers, not to “standards,” sad as that is.
  • Video and Audio support. Both play videos and audio nicely. The N800 likely supports more formats natively. Canola makes audio/video on the N800 a really nice experience.
  • Seamless connectivity. The iPhone might be “better” since it has to seamlessly switch between GPRS/EDGE and WiFi, but the N800 can switch between known WiFi access points fairly seamlessly as well, and I believe you can throw Bluetooth to a cell phone into that mix as well.

Are there any points I missed? Given a choice between an Apple iPhone and a Nokia N800, which would you pick and why? Leave your thoughts in the comments below.



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    links from Technorati전하고 있는데, 아래를 참고하시기 바란다. Skype for Nokia N800 Available (by Skype Journal) Skype on the Nokia N800 (by Ken Camp) : 여기에 보면 Nokia N800에서 구동되는 Skype의 스크린샷을 많이 볼 수 있다. Nokia N800 Comparable to the Apple iPhone (by Phoneboy) : 여기서는 이번에 애플에서 출시한 아이폰과 N800을 비교해서 설명하고 있다. BREAKING NEWS - THE NEW FIRMWARE IS HERE : 여기에서는 N800을 어떻게 업데이트하는 방법 및 기타 기능에 대해서

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    links from Technoratidoes a good job. Skype is also BIGGER and offers more features. There are also Skype WiFi phones, headsets, and other accessories. If there’s a race for VOIP penetration, Skype’s charging forth at over 100 million registered users. Phone Boy Blog: Nokia N800 Comparable to the Apple iPhone N800 can make calls with VoIP. Google Talk, Skype, and Gizmo Project are all supported on the N800. The iPhone has no VoIP capability because it’s a cell phone tied to a carrier who thinks VoIP is evil

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    links from Technorati전하고 있는데, 아래를 참고하시기 바란다. Skype for Nokia N800 Available (by Skype Journal) Skype on the Nokia N800 (by Ken Camp) : 여기에 보면 Nokia N800에서 구동되는 Skype의 스크린샷을 많이 볼 수 있다. Nokia N800 Comparable to the Apple iPhone (by Phoneboy) : 여기서는 이번에 애플에서 출시한 아이폰과 N800을 비교해서 설명하고 있다. BREAKING NEWS - THE NEW FIRMWARE IS HERE : 여기에서는 N800을 어떻게 업데이트하는 방법 및 기타 기능에 대해서

  4. Comment by Roger Sperberg

    One other aspect: the N800 has an 800-pixel wide screen — 800×480. That’s 225 pixels-per-inch. Small type is sharp and easy to read; and most websites accommodate 800-pixel width very nicely.

  5. Comment by Monet

    IPhone can play YouTube. N800 cannot.

  6. Comment by Wooki

    The actual technique of connecting wireless away from home. That is what I need to know now to buy. You know, I am 60 but pc savvy “to a certain point”. My questions are:

    - Do I have to buy a special phone or subscribe to a certain phone provider?
    - Can I use it with any bluetooth enabled phone? How?
    - Am I charged for additional connectivity time?
    - I already use a wireless card from AT&T to connect via cell phone signals with my laptop. Can I use that same service???? How?

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    links from Technoraticomparing the Nokia N800 to an Apple iPhone

  8. Comment by jaimito

    hey guys, i hope you can help me out! does anyone know if you can add peripherals to the n800? at the most simple printers, but i was also thinking of adding a Wireless USB Adaptor (I know there is a wireless card installed but i would need Atheros chipsets based wireless 802.11a/b/g devices.)

    also is it able to read from a USB memory card? everything i read tends to talk of reading from SD, MicroSD, MiniSD, MMC, DDR RAM and Flash.

    thanks,

    Rosie

  9. Comment by Izik

    Can I use other Voip software such as Voip discount on the N800? Where can I see the software that is compatible with this device?

  10. Comment by PhoneBoy

    I am not aware of any generic SIP client for the N800. That being said, it shouldn’t be too hard to develop them since they list on Linux. garage.maemo.org and maemo-apps.org are good places to start looking for apps.

  11. Comment by vicki

    this is for PhoneBoy…..N800 can make calls with VoIP. Google Talk, Skype, and Gizmo Project are all supported on the N800. The iPhone has no VoIP capability because it’s a cell phone tied to a carrier who thinks VoIP is evil. This is what you wrote on Skype journal. I am very new to this technology and wonder. When Verizon Wireless and ATT tell me that VOIP is not an acceptable use of their data network then how are we doing all this? Voip on Nokia N-800 and Gizmo etc?

  12. Comment by jim

    LOL… one big factor is that Nokia makes buggy firmware. I’ve had 3 Nokia’s so I know what I’m talking about!

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