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	<title>Comments on: Innovate Or Get Out Of The Way</title>
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		<title>By: PhoneBoy</title>
		<link>http://phoneboy.com/2122/innovate-or-get-out-of-the-way/comment-page-1#comment-25712</link>
		<dc:creator>PhoneBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@aswath There is innovation to be had at the edges. The carriers can do their part by giving us a fat, dumb, reliable pipe and not try and make that pipe "smart." That's the only innovation the carriers can--and really should--give us. Their other attempts at innovation have, for the most part, been abject failures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@aswath There is innovation to be had at the edges. The carriers can do their part by giving us a fat, dumb, reliable pipe and not try and make that pipe &#8220;smart.&#8221; That&#8217;s the only innovation the carriers can&#8211;and really should&#8211;give us. Their other attempts at innovation have, for the most part, been abject failures.</p>
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		<title>By: Aswath</title>
		<link>http://phoneboy.com/2122/innovate-or-get-out-of-the-way/comment-page-1#comment-25709</link>
		<dc:creator>Aswath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 13:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought the post tacitly admits that there is a dearth of innovation (the organizer of the event you refer says it as much) and I interpreted your post to be suggesting that the problem is with the carriers. If I misinterpreted your post, that is my bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought the post tacitly admits that there is a dearth of innovation (the organizer of the event you refer says it as much) and I interpreted your post to be suggesting that the problem is with the carriers. If I misinterpreted your post, that is my bad.</p>
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		<title>By: PhoneBoy</title>
		<link>http://phoneboy.com/2122/innovate-or-get-out-of-the-way/comment-page-1#comment-25704</link>
		<dc:creator>PhoneBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 07:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@aswath Your point doesn't in any way go against what I said. The telecoms can innovate by giving me a fat, dumb, reliable pipe. Leave the innovations to others--at the endpoints. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@aswath Your point doesn&#8217;t in any way go against what I said. The telecoms can innovate by giving me a fat, dumb, reliable pipe. Leave the innovations to others&#8211;at the endpoints. <img src='http://phoneboy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Aswath</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aswath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 04:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think telcos have stayed out of the way of any innovator, especially after the Carterfone ruling. There have been lot of innovation at the end without requiring any participation from the telcos (but I am not sure whether these are before or after the epoch you identify). For example, data modems and fax machines are important innovations. With out-of-band signalling, we could bring up information related to the caller even before the call is answered. Don't let Ribbit tell you that it is Caller ID 2.0. Why, PhoneGnome allows one to do lots of innovations even for POTS line, without involving the telcos. If the industry is lacking innovations it is because people are not focusing on the ends, but only the middle just as they denigrate the keepers of the middle - the telcos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think telcos have stayed out of the way of any innovator, especially after the Carterfone ruling. There have been lot of innovation at the end without requiring any participation from the telcos (but I am not sure whether these are before or after the epoch you identify). For example, data modems and fax machines are important innovations. With out-of-band signalling, we could bring up information related to the caller even before the call is answered. Don&#8217;t let Ribbit tell you that it is Caller ID 2.0. Why, PhoneGnome allows one to do lots of innovations even for POTS line, without involving the telcos. If the industry is lacking innovations it is because people are not focusing on the ends, but only the middle just as they denigrate the keepers of the middle - the telcos.</p>
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		<title>By: spg</title>
		<link>http://phoneboy.com/2122/innovate-or-get-out-of-the-way/comment-page-1#comment-25698</link>
		<dc:creator>spg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 14:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i agree completely. all i want is 'dumb pipe' with fast quality access tho the internet. eventually this will have to come anyways even if it coexists with models.

spg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agree completely. all i want is &#8216;dumb pipe&#8217; with fast quality access tho the internet. eventually this will have to come anyways even if it coexists with models.</p>
<p>spg</p>
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