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	<title>Comments on: German Courts Ban VoIP App on iPhone</title>
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		<title>By: PhoneBoy</title>
		<link>http://phoneboy.com/2517/german-courts-ban-voip-app-on-iphone/comment-page-1#comment-26791</link>
		<dc:creator>PhoneBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 06:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It sounds vaguely reminiscent of when the large telcos here in the U.S. didn&#039;t want to terminate calls certain &quot;services&quot; that had numbers served by telcos with large termination charges. They basically pay more than they can recover from the customer. No wonder AT&amp;T and the like tried to do these services in. 

I guess it&#039;s the same for T-Mobile in Deutschland.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sounds vaguely reminiscent of when the large telcos here in the U.S. didn&#8217;t want to terminate calls certain &#8220;services&#8221; that had numbers served by telcos with large termination charges. They basically pay more than they can recover from the customer. No wonder AT&#038;T and the like tried to do these services in. </p>
<p>I guess it&#8217;s the same for T-Mobile in Deutschland.</p>
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		<title>By: spg</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 04:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>one reason germany is a hotspot for these issues is that it is the largest country in europe that has very strict regulations concerning rate plans for mobile phones. the result is that you have extremely cheap plans that give unlimited in network calls and calls to landlines. the other large european markets have mostly minute bucket plans with the same rate(or minute deduction) for all type domestic calls. in germany you can use VOIP call through and other toll-bypass options and pay almost no money at all to your operator. in the other large markets you are mostly limited to turning international calls into local.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>one reason germany is a hotspot for these issues is that it is the largest country in europe that has very strict regulations concerning rate plans for mobile phones. the result is that you have extremely cheap plans that give unlimited in network calls and calls to landlines. the other large european markets have mostly minute bucket plans with the same rate(or minute deduction) for all type domestic calls. in germany you can use VOIP call through and other toll-bypass options and pay almost no money at all to your operator. in the other large markets you are mostly limited to turning international calls into local.</p>
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		<title>By: JimAtJaxtr</title>
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		<dc:creator>JimAtJaxtr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 16:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Germany seems to be a hotspot for these issues lately. First there was the scuffle between O2 and Rebtel, and now this. Obviously, these are different issues, but I just find it interesting how they&#039;ve localized.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Germany seems to be a hotspot for these issues lately. First there was the scuffle between O2 and Rebtel, and now this. Obviously, these are different issues, but I just find it interesting how they&#8217;ve localized.</p>
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		<title>By: Prohben aplicacin para hacer VoIP sobre el iPhone &#124; Noticias &#124; Noticias de Internet y Tecnologia?, Seguilaflecha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prohben aplicacin para hacer VoIP sobre el iPhone &#124; Noticias &#124; Noticias de Internet y Tecnologia?, Seguilaflecha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 14:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: spg</title>
		<link>http://phoneboy.com/2517/german-courts-ban-voip-app-on-iphone/comment-page-1#comment-26781</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think the big deal about sipgate is that you get a local German land line number for free; and without ever having to pay a single cent. that makes the expense to the people calling you MUCH MUCH cheaper. in europe the cost savings advantage on voip(particularly mobile VOIP) has to do with having a land line as opposed to a mobile number ring you phone.

truphone will not give germans a land line number in their local area code.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think the big deal about sipgate is that you get a local German land line number for free; and without ever having to pay a single cent. that makes the expense to the people calling you MUCH MUCH cheaper. in europe the cost savings advantage on voip(particularly mobile VOIP) has to do with having a land line as opposed to a mobile number ring you phone.</p>
<p>truphone will not give germans a land line number in their local area code.</p>
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		<title>By: Celularis Blog de teléfonos móviles y tecnología móvil</title>
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